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i have a lifeguard treatment that attacks a broad range of external fish diseases.
it tells me for the next 5 days i must remove carbon filters, why

my water filter is nothing but carbon, my fish will not like being without a filter for 5 days, i have very large fish in a 75 gal tank, im not sure if i want to unplug it,
what will happen, if i leave it in there.

has anyone heard of "halo shield" a non antibiotic agent
i guess that's what i bought.


so why must i remove carbon, will my treatment still work if not?

please all experience and advice will be used to the fullest.
im love my fish, and want them to be healthy.
by chance can anyone tell me what makes my fish water smell after so long. i just put new filters in it, and my house smells like a river, with dead fish in it, but my fish are healthy,

i just want to treat my tank because of new fish, and my power was out for 9 days due to ike, and i want a stable tank........
i do see your care for stressing my fish, but i just had a case of ich, and now one of my fish has mouth rot, so yes this treatment is needed, and it even says its okay for new fish prevention.
i do my water changes and i gravel sweep, my water is fine, i just want to know what makes it smell so bad, and it isnt all the time.

someone told me it was the good algae...... thats why i ask.


all water levels are normal and i check them every week.
OKAY i turned off the filters untill my husband gets home, he is the owe who takes the filters apart, so i went ahead and started the treatment, now my question is, will my filters kill the bactiera after i plug it in in 5 days, or if he removes the filter, and puts it in again, will it be gone,
sorry for so much added....
my filters are brand new, and i dont want to change them, i really cant afford.
my fish are fine, i just dont want it to get worse, so will everything be okay, if i just plug it in in 5 days, with a water change????
my csrbon is wrapped inside of mish foam, its a one part system by whisper--30-60

When you say your filter has nothing but carbon, that soesn't sound right?

There should be sponges or nylon wool and maybe ceramic biomedia in there too. Maybe the filter will have one carbon element, but many dont even have one.

Like was said above, carbon will simply absorb any chemicals in the water, removing the medication from the system before it can do any good.

If you remove they filters for 5 days you will completely destroy any nitrogen cycle thats running in your tank, and almost certainly kill your fish.

If you are changing all the media on a regular basis you are also forcing the tank to cycle again every time, thats the dead fish smell you notice after changing the filters. You have thrown out all your cycle bacteria and they have to regrow. You should just rinse out the sponge or wool parts, and only replace the one carbon element. Or replace the carbon element with a re-usable sponge and not use carbon at all.

You should just be able to remove the carbon filter element, thats the one that has charcoal like stuff in it, and leave the rest of the filter running normally.

Ian

2008-10-01 11:34:29 by m c

Nanostructured Carbon Water Filter. It#39;s 350 times higher adsorption effect than GAC \ Granular Activated Carbon.

So, i got a treatment for my gold fishes cause they apparently have ICH..

the medication i am using say's remove filter carbon, ( i am a fish newbie) i assume the carbon filtration is the box that blows our oxygen in the fish tank.

Anywho, i don't understand why i have to remove it. the medicine turns the water green as well, should i leave it, if so how long or how much should times a week should i change the water when the medicine says to medicate for 7 days.

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No, the carbon is the stuff that looks like small black rocks. Some filter pads have it contained inside the filter pad-in between the plastic piece and the fiber. If you shake it, you'll hear it rattle. If that's the case, just cut it and remove it and return the filter pad to the filter.
Otherwise, some people put carbon in a separate bag. Me personally, I don't recommend using it on a regular basis. It's really only needed when it's time to remove medications from your tank. Carbon absorbs certain chemicals and such from the water.

Also, carbon is only considered active or effective for a short time-I've heard a few days to 2 weeks. But, I would still remove it if you have it to be on the safe side.

For the meds, follow the directions on the bottle. I know this is also confusing, but follow the treatment for at least 4-5 days until after the last spot falls off the fish. Ich has 3 life stages, and it's only killed off during it's free swimming life stage. Depending on the temperature in the tank will determine how quickly they move through those life stages. However, with certain meds, you do not want to increase the temp in the tank. Here's a few links to read over with lots of info on what ich is, causes, and different treatment ideas:

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm? c=16+1791&aid=2421

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophth irius

Good luck!

2008-11-28 06:53:07 by Alan

Betta has fin rot. Put in Fungus Clear last night. Can I test the water with this fungus clear in the tank? From what I have read after removing the carbon filter ammonia levels will rise. The Betta did eat this morning but he does not seem to be back to normal. Can I expect to see some improvement soon? Should I put a new Carbon insert in after the end of the treatment? Also, how long should I wait to do another treatment? I was told to do it every 4 days. But for how long. Don't want to lose my little friend!

I wouldn't test the water until you are done treating with the fungus clear.I would put in new filters after the treatment.Treat until the fungus is gone.It usually takes a few days(4 or 5) before you will see any improvement.

2007-11-10 12:16:24 by Debbie L

I have a new well installed in limestone. There is a strong sulpher odor and the water turns black after it sits for awhile in tank. I am using the water ONLY for lawn watering and to refill my koi pond - so no chlorine treatments. I saw greensand filters and carbon treatment, but gees it is a lawn and a pond and those treatments are very expensive!. The holding tank is pressurized. Would any type of aeration work? I don't care so much about the lawn but the sulpher probably isn't good for the koi.

What about making ur own carbon filter to bo between the water source and the holding tank?

Here's how...Walmart sells a big bag of activated charcoal for really cheap. What you could do is make an enclosure for this using 4 inch Schedule 40 PVC plumbing pipe with 2 end caps.

PVC glue will hold the end caps, and you'll need to drill thru the end caps and make water tite fittings and correct connections.

make the 4 inch pipe about 12 inches long and fill it up full with the activated carbon,

USe Duct tape to hold the carbon on one of the ends while u keep the pipe standing up, then fill it completely*** on both ends of the end caps...Use Epoxy Glue to secure in a 4 pieces of cut round fine mesh Fiberglas Screen material from Home Depot or LOWES on the inside then

Before closing the ends do the top end first. Once it is glued n secure
Turn the pipe filter upside down, careful not to damage ur pipe connection then remove the duct tape that was holding the carbon and glue on the last end with the PVC glue.

To use PVC glue, it has to be fast...so here's what you do in a well ventilated area, with newspaper or large tarp covering a floor, and try not to breathe the glue fumes...open the PVC glue and brush lots of the glue on the the outside of the pipe where the edge is, Dont worry about using too much, you then have to brush the inside of the end caps, hopefully u have at least 3/4 inch space for glue all around the inside of the end cap.
Then press the 2 glued pieces together as far as u can. It will setup in seconds and should not be used for at least 2 hours.

When u epoxied that screen material inside the end caps that is for keeping the carbon from flowing out into ur tank. If you could add in a round piece of Tshirt cotton on the closest side of the carbon, this will help keep the black dust of the carbon from fouling ur tank.

...... mark a date on the outside of the pipe when u made it, then 1 year later you'll have to replace the whole thing.

wow nice project. any questions?

I think the biggest challenge will be making the connections on both end caps. You drill holes for the connectors that match up to ur pipes.
how do u make water tite seals? U'll have to use Permatex Yellow Seal, which u can find in a small tube at Autozone or other car parts store.

Use Teflon PASTE on the connection threads to prevent leaks.
this paste is avail in a squeezable tube from Home depot or Lowes, and squeeze the tube a lot gently to be sure the paste is well mixed inside.

2008-12-27 08:58:17 by TheRockLady

I have a juwel 260 fish tank with all the fillters + 2 air pumps with air stones.
I am 3days into a 5 day treatment of [waterlife fin rot +ulcers] before i started i checked my water peramiters with a tetra 5in 1 water test kit which was ok.I have taken out the carbon filter before i started the treatment but now 3days into it i used the test kit again and have found that my nitrate level has gone up to 250 from 50 and my ph level has gone up from 7.6 to 8.4.
usualy i would do a 20% Water change but if i do it would be a waste of time in giving the treatment.
i am sure that having the carbon filter out has afected the water quality.
I was also told not to give a water change for 4days after the treatment had finished.
I have been a keeper of koi and tropical fish for many years but have never had this problem before.
What should i do?

nitrates at 250 are at a lethal level, so i myself would do a water change. its not worth treating the fish if they all going to drop dead from poor water quality anyway. id do a 20% treatment today. leave it a few days then re-test. once the retest came back safe, then i would carry on with the medication. but i guess thats just me. im not sure what the "proper" method of approach would be here

2007-11-24 07:04:33 by DARREN W